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post #1 of 43 (permalink) Old 11-26-2019, 05:37 PM Thread Starter
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Very Strange Start No Start Issue 77SSII

Hey All,
I've got a weird issue here. 1977 SSII. First. The previous owner has replaced the starter 2 times in the last 5 years..(I'm thinking for this very reason) Every now and then the car will not start/turnover in park so I would put it in neutral from park and it would start right up. TODAY.. Car in park, turn the key..nothing.. then I put the car in neutral.. It turned right over and started. Turned the car off and tried to start it again in park.. dead silence. Shifted to neutral.. nothing. Now it won't start at all. I'm stumped. Any thoughts?

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post #2 of 43 (permalink) Old 11-26-2019, 05:52 PM
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There is a neutral safety switch in the column and gear actuator box that shifts the gearbox. You may need to adjust or replace the column switch based on your experience. Check the factory service manual on the Bentley Heritage site for your car.

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post #3 of 43 (permalink) Old 11-27-2019, 03:04 AM
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Hi,


X2 would certainly be my first check point too.


Picture shows switch to check bottom left.


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Thank you Wraithman and Steve. I'm gonna dig into it this weekend and let you know what I found out.

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Wellll.. It's not the neutral safety switch in the steering column. I bypassed the switch and the same hit and miss starting problem is still going on. I drove her around for a bit today and after I got home I turned the car off and immediately tried to start it again..nothing. then I waited about 5 minutes tried it again..started right up. :/

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Change the coil

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Hi Phillip


What precisely happens when you turn the key to crank the engine. Is it total silence, a faint click (starter relay) or a louder click (starter solenoid).


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Hi,


Dounraey's information request would be useful to know I agree.


Also have you tried wiggling the ignition key around as there are some contacts on the back of the switchbox that work off the key insert and can be a problem that prevents engine even running and my own car failed here one day when driving along and then became intermittent when trying to start without wiggling the key around for restarting.


I will get my spare switchbox out and put up some pictures of the rear but I am sure there is a thread on this giving all the detail so will have a look as not sure which RR/B forum it may be on.


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Hi,


Here is a PDF file outlining switchbox problem and includes some pictures.


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Hey.. Thnx guys for the advice. Wraithman, The engine will not turn over when I'm having this issue and I do have replacing the coil on my list. Dounraey, There is a strange buzzing noise when I turn the key to the starting position and no fuel pump noise when I turn the key to start position. Steve, I think you are on to something there. I'm gonna give that a try and post an update.

Thnx Again Guys!!!

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